Hi -- is it possible for any CA cichlids to peacefully live with a violet goby and a large hermit crab without attacking them? (ignore the obvious salinity issue here please, just want to know abou ttemperment)
Can CA cichlids live peacefully with a violet goby?
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Yeah, I’m doing a lot of research on which ones are brackish tolerant and it seems some species actually prefer brackish and do better, and some species can’t tolerate it at all. But just want to get a feel whether ANY ca cichlid would be polite enough to not bite a violet goby.
Yeah if I do decide to ignore geography and stock the tank with fish from anywhere, I’ll go with green chromides. But I’m trying to stick with fish from their native waters.If it was me I would go with a Orange Chromide cichlid.
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There is another species of Violet Goby, apparently from pure fresh water, native to Peru. Not strictly Central America, of course.
I think it's much more important to be concerned with actual water conditions and parameters than with other fish from the same locality. A brackish environment might be only a few miles from a pure freshwater one, and the fish found in those two locales could be completely different, and completely intolerant of each other's preferred water conditions. Whereas another brackish species from half-way around the world might be the perfect tankmate for your Violet Goby.
Researching the tolerance of this or that species for this or that water...and then forcing together two species, each of which is at the opposite extreme of its required conditions...usually results in neither species being properly accommodated. You see this a lot with temperature preferences, but it is just as true of salinity, hardness, pH, etc.
I think it's much more important to be concerned with actual water conditions and parameters than with other fish from the same locality. A brackish environment might be only a few miles from a pure freshwater one, and the fish found in those two locales could be completely different, and completely intolerant of each other's preferred water conditions. Whereas another brackish species from half-way around the world might be the perfect tankmate for your Violet Goby.
Researching the tolerance of this or that species for this or that water...and then forcing together two species, each of which is at the opposite extreme of its required conditions...usually results in neither species being properly accommodated. You see this a lot with temperature preferences, but it is just as true of salinity, hardness, pH, etc.
I have kept Andinoacara cichlids with these with these two gobies in a 180 gal tank without problems.
The Awaous species "banana ? (above)" was about the same size as the Andinoacara (4")
And below Eleiotris species (maybe species picta) almost double the size of the cichlids.
Many species of Central American cichlids are highly tolerant of brackish water.
Herichthys carpintus laguna Chairel (below) is one, lake Chairel is in very close proximity to the sea, and the lake often inundated with salt water by seasonal winds.
Vieja maculicauda is another, often found foraging for marine algae in the sea.
The Awaous species "banana ? (above)" was about the same size as the Andinoacara (4")
And below Eleiotris species (maybe species picta) almost double the size of the cichlids.
Many species of Central American cichlids are highly tolerant of brackish water.
Herichthys carpintus laguna Chairel (below) is one, lake Chairel is in very close proximity to the sea, and the lake often inundated with salt water by seasonal winds.
Vieja maculicauda is another, often found foraging for marine algae in the sea.
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true. maybe I shouldn't get so hung up on geography.
This is an interesting article about salinity with CA cichlids. I know some of them are completely intolerant of it but some species actually seem to do better in brackish, according to studies.
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this fish i had two years in freshwater it is odontamblyopus rubicundus-eel goby.After two years i made big mistake .i bought stupid channa stewarti and he killed eel goby.But eel goby i consider as "freshwater substitution" for brackish violet gobies...
